Saturday, January 17, 2009

How?

This is an excellent summary of the mechanics of how the Lobby works. One of the chief weapons of World Jewry against those who try to uncover their scheming is the very implausibility of how groups representing 2 or 3 percent of the American population can be leading the entire country to its obvious and complete ruination. Their sheer psychopathic ruthlessness helps, as does the fact that they are 'one issue guys'.

I'm wondering about the importance of Jewish votes and Jewish money. There aren't many Jewish votes, except in a very few areas, and the amount of dollars we're talking about is sometimes as low as a few thousand. How does World Jewry have so much influence? Obviously, we have to factor in the importance of utter Jew-control of the entire media, but we still don't have enough of an explanation for what amounts to the suicide of one of the world's great empires on the pyre of Jewish nationalism.

It has to be blackmail. We must be witnessing the largest blackmail operation in the history of politics.

73 comments:

Xenophile said...

In his book "Jewish Power," J. J. Goldberg (editor of the Forward) boasts that 45% of the fundraising for the Democratic party and 25% of the funding for the Republican party come from Jewish funded Political Action Committees.

Richard Cohen of the Washington Post has recently updated this data to read 60% for democrats and 35% for republicans fundraising come from Jewish funded Political Action Committees.

This refers of course to the visible side of politics. Unaccounted for bribes, blackmail, junkets, "loans," blackmail, death threats and nepotism go a long way in explaining why the US host would rather die a miserable death, than get rid of its parasitic-zionistic infestation.

Xenophile said...

This is how it feels to be under a rain of zionist white phosphorus:

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/0,1518,grossbild-1407799-601793,00.html

jr said...

A ham steak needs to be put through the heart of the Talmudic vampires

Man From Atlan said...

C'mon, Xymphora. Jewish power is shown in so many ways, and blackmail is such a crude little weapon. It's the seduction of power, of vanity, and the willingness of so many to sell their soul to the devil.
Right down to the local level politicians are being given free trips to Israel, getting elected with the help of soft money and puff pieces in the media, and torn to pieces if they speak out against Israel, that symbol of Jewish power-witness Cynthia McKinney, Ralph Nader, and Ron Paul.
But their greater power is in the control of the economy of the leading countries, through the fiat banking system, the stock markets, control of capital, media, and various means of psychological, disease, and overall physical control.
It takes a great deal of courage to stand up against that, and any attempt always eems to be muted, because of the fear of standing up too high, and unsupported. They're the ones who get killed, or, made insignificant.

Anonymous said...

Blackmail is crude, but the defining characteristic of these six millennial throwbacks is clumsiness. Recall those three ugly overweight Jewess intern scandals (Chandra Levy et al), all involving beltway high priest families and all occurring around the same time and followed by change in Israel policy. It's a last resort within a culture that just happens to worship material success and just happens to be predisposed to the Jewish side of everything, like clumsy assassination attempts.

Anonymous said...

In the case of blackmail we must call their bluff, assume all information from Kosher sources is bullspit (which is never a bad idea anyway), and make a show of continuing to accept a politician who has either failed morally or been accused of failing morally but not within the province of his job. Eg Eliot Spitzer, a connected Jew but smart and hard-working enough to do his job well and populist enough to actually go after the criminal banks that should be gone after, should still have his job. There has to be a way of demonstrating to the media, which long ago established that it cares about politicians' sex lives much more than does anyone not buying their dying products, that their lies aren't working.

Anonymous said...

It was never a good idea giving jews there own state.
But it was lunacy beyond comprehension, that was behind gentile support for Israeli nukes.

There is no doubt blackmail in every dealing with Israel and it's horde of delinquent supports.

But the jewish nuclear bomb hangs over any and all them, undoubtedly...

Ashleigh said...

Without the bomb, IMHO, alot of what we see today wouldn't be happening.

stevieb

reGrets said...

Right you are Xymph.

Blackmail, plus the threat of financial loss, violence or murder. B'nai Brithniks are a small percentage of a small percentage, but when they target you (or someone you care for and you're all alone, falling in line or running and hiding may seem the best options.

And MfA,you list off some of the ways in which the power of organized Jewry is exerted. What I believe you are missing is the way in which that power is used to generate more power, and turn opponents into willing accomplices. Once one has been bought over a small thing, it is easy to bribe and entice one into worse. The cop who turns a blind eye over a parking offence in return for a wad of cash, will presently find himself turning a blind eye to preparations for assassination. Fuck one willing underage runaway hooker, and by you will find yourself on camera stuck in a howling eight year-old. How much pressure was exerted to get our Canadian Human Rights (for the only real humans) Commission established? Likewise in the States, why do the homosexuality and kiddy porn scandels get bruited about, only to be suddenly silenced? Boys' School, Jeff Gannon, children overnighting in the White House. It's ridiculous, so much filth and so many murders uninvestigated and unpublished, every single US politician more Zionist than any Jew. This is entrapment followed by blackmail or a bullet.

5ds said...

the west shows daily it doesnt care about the misery and murdering of the palestinians.

if really concerned by jewish nukes, lob 10 or so onto the rogue entity from us, england, france, russia.

5 dancing shlomos said...

should have added to above: collateral damage not an issue for the west

5ds said...

surprised that israel libby/leibowitz not yet given pardon

Anonymous said...

Hmm - agreed on blackmail and similar. But the Bomb? OK - but not so much how many, but where some of them are placed.
That's the RealDeal.

Man From Atlan said...

Remember the unsourced rumour about the Isareli consulate in NY being a radiation hot spot?

5ds said...

consulate in NY being a radiation hot spot?"

interesting. nukes in embassies, consulates. evacuate staff.

5ds said...

from angry arab:

"Peace with a terrorist state like Israel is basically a legitimation of terrorism, massacres, and occupations. Just as our opposition to apartheid and Nazism was categorical, our rejection of Israel should be absolute and categorical. Peace with a state like Israel is a recipe for war. Real peace is in a rejection of this terrorist state."
Posted by As'ad at 8:51 AM

good.

sorry to ignore your question,xym.

all i know jews control the media, control the discourse, many worthless academics are jews and jewish money to these institutions multiply their influence. jews attack as a swarm. a non jew,eg, ward churchill is alone. doesnt stand a chance. of course bribery and blackmail. not only swarm attack but combine with swarm aid, eg, hillary and obama. they become obligated and trapped.

Ken Hoop said...

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/jan/26/00031/

Phil Weiss on Murdoch, if it hasn't already been cited here.

Ken Hoop said...

Elizabitch Wurtzel is disdainfully worried about European "anti-semitism."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/16/elizabeth-wurtzel-antisemitism-israel-gaza

Ken Hoop said...

Let's not omit Kucinich, MFA, who refuses to visit Israel until it obeys UN edicts and returns the occupied territories.

US taxpayer said...

Press TV has made a breakthrough--

http://www.presstv.ir/watch_live.aspx

the only TV news worth watching

Anonymous said...

Re the secreted nukes - (if any)


I don't believe for one moment that an evacuation of embassies or similar is the plan at all. They're Waay crazier than that.
What's being said is along the lines of 'if we go, you go'.

nobody said...

You might want to have a read of Dave McGowan's pedophocracy. And then ask yourself, 'Whose pedophocracy is it?'

If the initial question is 'how is this possible?', regular blackmail doesn't quite cut the mustard. Being caught sleeping with another woman, even sleeping with another man, just isn't good enough. Nor is accepting bribes or any other variety of financial malfeasance. All of these could be walked away from. But anyone involved in the pedophocracy will NEVER walk away. It's the ultimate carrot and the ultimate stick.

Wait till you get to chapter six where he discusses the 'finders'. It's a mindfuck.

Anonymous said...

and this article, not new, reaching to Brussels, Dutroux environment
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=9614Then There Was The Pim Fortuyn Assassination
by Trowbridge H. Ford – November 2, 2008
Once Jörg Haider resigned as leader of the Freedom Party in Austria's newly-established governing coalition with the Austrian People's Party in February 2000, it was time for the Mossad's Zev Barken aka Bruckenstein to move on. The anti-Haider riots in Vienna on the 6th in which over 50 people were ínjured, most of them policemen, had achieved their purpose, and the mechanism Barkan had established for producing them - foreigners, especially German and American protesters, using false passports that the Mossad had gotten eleswhere, mostly from tourists in Asia -

Anonymous said...

link didn't work again:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=9614

Anonymous said...

Thanks US Taxpayer for the TV Press url. Really good station - I have mentioned it on The Handstand. Jocelyn

moonkoon said...

More heartless, Western backed barbarity.

Fears grow for trapped civilians as army advances on Tamil Tigers

International concern is intensifying over the fate of around 350,000 civilians trapped in a rapidly shrinking rebel-controlled pocket of land in Sri Lanka's north east, as the military steps up its campaign to end the civil war by crushing the Tamil Tiger forces...

Aid agencies believe that hundreds of thousands of people made homeless by the latest offensive have been pushed back, along with the guerrilla fighters, and are now crowded into a densely forested patch of land around 30km wide. Most of these civilians are thought to be sheltering with locals, or beneath shelters roughly thrown together from palm leaves, and food supplies are very restricted.

It will be near-impossible to establish whether these fears are justified, because the Sri Lankan government has meticulously excluded journalists, international observers and most aid organisations from the conflict zone...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/srilanka-tamil-tigers-trapped-civilians

Anonymous said...

"Zionists often have a feeding frenzy when they find a coward to jump on. However, when dignified people refuse to be intimidated, the Zionists often slink away.

"Though Professors John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt were viciously and unfairly attacked when they published their paper The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, they wisely stood their ground. They did not back down. They did not even begin to backpedal.

"This is one of the chief reasons why the Zionists have called upon their smear mongers to back off of Mearsheimer and Walt. There are of course other reasons why the Zionists are crawling back into their rotten caves. President Jimmy Carter's book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid accomplished a great deal. Dr. Stephen J. Sniegoski was early to criticize the Israel Lobby. Before him was Congressman Paul Findley with his groundbreaking book They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby. James Petras published an important book The Power of Israel in the United States."

http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html

Anonymous said...

Xymph, you're wondering about the importance of jewish money? (from the jewish point of view) - Here's a clue from the very jewish movie 'Cabaret'...'Money Money'... makes the world go round

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q

Anonymous said...

This is interesting about Jeff Monson because it is a sign that people who are sick of the system (and those running it) are becoming more mainstream in a sort of subculture way.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/Jeff-Monson-charged-with-mischief-ESPN-not-an-a?urn=mma,134737

Evie

Rowan Berkeley said...

They're much more in your face about owning all the so-called global mainstream media. They used to worry, in Haaretz even, about giving the impression of controlling the media, but now they just don't care, in fact, they are deliberately rubbing it in, which to me suggests a degree of exhaustion.

FritzSmith said...

Since the 90s (1989), the economy appeared like a sell-out, for the not so deceived, and then all that new wars and finance debt-bubbles crash? even retired mainstream politicians were speaking of predatory or jungle capitalism. (liberal market economy: "the market regulates all" - is like saying:"death regulates all" Peter Scholl-Latour).
Still many in the wealthy countries are self-deceiving, but, as was said about 40 years ago by the socialist students, this capitalism is suicidal, exploiting all natural resources for profit,and the 3.world, and now it's openly insane - so that those criminals infesting it, are no surprise.

btw. the main adversary in ~ 1968, (here) were the media, the Springer press Hamburg, (not the science editors) Bild Zeitung for workers, like the Sun in GB, perhaps. And symptomatic: look at what the media landscape has become since then: a virtual world, global, when in the 60s TV only had 3 state owned programs ending at 12 pm or so in Germany.

Sure some new insights have been made too.

b said...

Agreed, they are now deliberately rubbing it in that they control the West. But I don't think there is any exhaustion. Publicising their control may even have been part of the point of the Gaza massacre. Today there is war and there is war propaganda, but it can also happen that a massacre or war itself serves a propaganda function (among others).

The Woody Allen 'weak Jew' meme is dead. There is a dynamic. In 10-20 years' time the US might be like South Africa under apartheid. Ephraim Halevy, former head of Mossad, called for "profound cultural changes". That was a few hours after the false-flag terror attacks in London, in the article where he also called for world war.

Many political, protest, and social scenes will split or change in form as a result of issues arising from the recognition or non-recognition that Jews control America and most of the advanced West.

Man From Atlan said...

Angry Arab has a great analysis of the Arab struggle http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/01/on-balance-evaluation-of-israeli.html in which he points out that Hamas has done remarkably well, has not lost its fighting capabilities, and will now have huge numbers of recruits.
He's a little harsh about Anwar Sadat, whose initial assault on the Israeli lines in Sinai 1973 was a most remarkable military feat, and not harsh enough about Arafat "may his grave get deeper".
I would add a couple of points here:
The downing of EgyptAir flight 990 in 1999, in which much of Egypt's General Staff were killed, shows how afraid Israel really is to face the combined armies of the Arab world, why it has developed nukes, and has worked to keep Egypt as an eternal US client.
And Arafat, instead of fighting Israel, tried to take over Jordan. Big mistake. His bombast led to his defeat by Jordanian forces in Black September and the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.
A footnote: Jordanian forces were led by Pakistani general Zia ul Haq. Sad, but true.

Fritz said...

Gamal Abd el Nasser was a great leader.

Anon said...

It is blackmail that is a primary factor in controlling top Americans. The Dutroux affair is linked to child abuse rings worldwide. Americans should learn about what goes on in Belgium and Jersey in the UK, and how this links to Congress. http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/01/bailhache-harper-wathelet-and-child.html

Rowan Berkeley said...

I only said they controlled the so-called global mainstream media, all of which have been amazingly passive, much more so than on the 2006 Lebanon attack.

Xenophile said...

You wouldn't believe it, but it truly happened. 4'13'' of truth in the Israeli television:


Israeli TV airs telephone call to father after children killed -English
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUh6xVlndhM


...fucking savages.

US taxpayer said...

http://www.turkishforum.com/content/2008/12/01/rector-kicks-out-israel-ambassador/

Rector kicks out Israel ambassador
December 1st, 2008



ANKARA - Istanbul University’s rector, Mesut Parlak, drove away two Israeli officials from his office due to the presence of their armed bodyguards, daily Haaretz reported yesterday.

The Israeli ambassador to Turkey, Gabby Levy, and Consul General Mordechai Amichai visited Parlak in his office Friday and he became annoyed by the bodyguards who entered his office without permission. “This is a university and we cannot hold a meeting under these circumstances. There is no such protocol here. I am responsible for your security and these bodyguards cannot stay,” Parlak told the officials who insisted on keeping the bodyguards with them. Parlak then canceled the meeting and saw them to the door.

Israeli sources confirmed the incident saying they did not want to leave the ambassador alone at the meeting after protests by Palestinian students at Bahçeşehir University earlier in the week.

Israeli diplomats in Turkey are provided with “Shin Bet protection,” but it is customary to keep the presence of police and security personnel to a minimum on university campuses. The altercation erupted when the two diplomats failed to adhere to this unwritten rule.

Source: www.hurriyet.com.tr, 23 Nov 2008

Nancy in Seattle said...

I don't know how reliable a source Debka File is but today they're claiming Obama engineered the Israeli announcement of a cease fire. The article in question is subscriber's only but here's the teaser.

How Obama team engineered Gaza ceasefire to Hamas' benefit

January 18, 2009, 9:38 PM (GMT+02:00)

The move cleared the way for his administration's coming dialogue with Iran.

Sensing the reprieve ahead, Hamas stepped up its rocket assault on Israel. Read more about Barack Obama's Middle East opener and its impact in the coming DEBKA-Net-Weekly out this Friday.

http://www.debka.com/section.php?cid=53

Rowan Berkeley said...

DEBKAfile is completely unreliable, except as an introduction to military disinformation, which can be informative as long as you know that that is what it is.

Anonymous said...

DebkaFile told us after 9-11 that 15000 Chinese Muslims were gonna join the jihad in Afghanistan after NATO led invasion. So far, only 2 Chinese Uyghur Muslims captured by Western invaders

US taxpayer said...

19/01/2009
Israel recruits 'army of bloggers' to combat anti-Zionist Web sites
By Cnaan Liphshiz
Tags: Israel, anti-Semitism, blog

The Immigrant Absorption Ministry announced on Sunday it was setting up an "army of bloggers," to be made up of Israelis who speak a second language, to represent Israel in "anti-Zionist blogs" in English, French, Spanish and German.

The program's first volunteer was Sandrine Pitousi, 31, from Kfar Maimon, situated five kilometers from Gaza. "I heard about the project over the radio and decided to join because I'm living in the middle of the conflict," she said.

Before hanging up the phone prematurely following a Color Red rocket alert, Pitousi, who immigrated to Israel from France in 1993, said she had some experience with public relations from managing a production company.

"During the war, we looked for a way to contribute to the effort," the ministry's director general, Erez Halfon, told Haaretz. "We turned to this enormous reservoir of more than a million people with a second mother tongue." Other languages in which bloggers are sought include Russian and Portuguese.

Halfon said volunteers who send the Absorption Ministry their contact details by e-mail, at media@moia.gov.il, will be registered according to language, and then passed on to the Foreign Ministry's media department, whose personnel will direct the volunteers to Web sites deemed "problematic."

Within 30 minutes of announcing the program, which was approved by the Foreign Ministry on Sunday, five volunteers were already in touch, Halfon said.

US taxpayer said...

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056648.html

traducteur said...

We can expect some of them to turn up here, then. We can handle them, it has happened before.

Anonymous said...

A picture is worth a thousand words:
Gaza

Evie

Anonymous said...

"Strength is irrelevant, resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours." -The Borg
former known as "Fritz"

shinru said...

[i]Man From Atlan said..."The downing of EgyptAir flight 990 in 1999"..[/i] was probably a trial run for 9/11:

Download this two part interview with Dick Eastman:

It gets especially interesting in the second part from 5:20 onwards. Here we are being told how EgyptAir Flight 990, with many high ranking egyptian army officers on board, was crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on october 1999 using remote. According to Dick Eastman Flight 990 served as a dress rehearsal for 9/11.

http://how911wasdone.blogspot.com/#testing

Anonymous said...

They used to worry, in Haaretz even, about giving the impression of controlling the media, but now they just don't care, in fact, they are deliberately rubbing it in, which to me suggests a degree of exhaustion.

The purpose of disinformation is disinformation, i.e., denial or twisting of truth, so that they will always strive to conceal their true power in times of waxing strength or weakness in times of waning, as it seems to be happening now.

They are losing their footing and desperate to slow the momentum, thus passivity of mainstream media about the impotence of the latest Gaza assault, much better to brag about their "vitality" and control of the Western governing strata.

lobro

Anonymous said...

I was at my brother's place this weekend. We watched the new Batman movie. After a break we watched the news. There was a 30 second update from Gaza on CNN. My 14 year old niece said "The Israelis are creating millions of Harvey Dents." From the mouths of babes.

Anonymous said...

My view is that the notion of "badness" as a deviant trait due entirely to Zionism and Israel is pure hasbara and that at some point, both will be sacrificed by the coming horde of gatekeepers.

This view is to some extent expressed by Mark Glenn in this article.
It is an increasingly popular fad these days amongst those taking the moral high road against Israel’s 60 year-long orgy of violence and bloodshed against the indigenous Semites of Palestine, Lebanon and other surrounding areas to erect a separation wall between “Zionism” as a violent, racist political movement and “Judaism” as a “holy religion” devoted to the worship of God.

lobro

Anonymous said...

I invite you to
"Take a Walk Through Gaza"
http://youngfoxredux.blogspot.com/2009/01/take-walk-through-gaza.html

Ken Hoop said...

Lobro

But of course what you describe even if true in reductio absurdum form, would still constitute a huge "sacrificial"...loss-and also for those arguing the Maenichean position.

Anonymous said...

John J. Mearsheimer is not backing off...thank god for tenure. Another War, Another Defeat

But these are not the real goals of Operation Cast Lead. The actual purpose is connected to Israel’s long-term vision of how it intends to live with millions of Palestinians in its midst. It is part of a broader strategic goal: the creation of a “Greater Israel.” Specifically, Israel’s leaders remain determined to control all of what used to be known as Mandate Palestine, which includes Gaza and the West Bank. The Palestinians would have limited autonomy in a handful of disconnected and economically crippled enclaves, one of which is Gaza. Israel would control the borders around them, movement between them, the air above and the water below them....And if Israel were genuinely interested in creating a viable Palestinian state, it could have worked with the national unity government to implement a meaningful ceasefire and change Hamas’s thinking about a two-state solution. But Israel has a different agenda: it is determined to employ the Iron Wall strategy to get the Palestinians in Gaza to accept their fate as hapless subjects of a Greater Israel.

here
Evie

Anonymous said...

something else is sure to replace the "loss", Ken, like being exhorted to buy an AMC Gremlin because Dodge Dork sucks.

when the snake sheds its skin should the rabbit relax?

lobro

(now, an admission that holocaust is nothing but a humongous lie and generating matrix for massive evil, slaughter, ripoff and manipulation would surely constitute a real sacrifice, enough for me to take it seriously - do you think it is going to happen, or at least an open debate allowed)

Ken Hoop said...

Even such as Chomsky defended Faurrison said the details should be debated and, I believe, expressed indifference as to the conclusion of the debate. Xymph doesn't appear to believe it decisive to his cause.

Anonymous said...

The holicaust is the jews 'get of of jail free' card. They pull it when ever their opponent calls their sophistry. It needs to be destroyed.

Please give us a quote from Chompsky where he expresses indifference to the out come of whether or not the holicaust ever really happened in the Spielberg sense. And is he for giving all the money, art, property etc. etc. back? I'll believe that when hell freezes over.
Evie

Anonymous said...

israel is entirely founded on holocaust and not just the foundations but the construction material, the fabric of its being and identity, the ever ready justification for whatever horror it plans against the "other", locally and globally, the swampy breeding ground for the spread of disease, and for this reason it will never be renounced, whether by Weiss, Chomsky, Avnery and their "liberal" ilk.

They will all pretend to ineffectually swat at mosquitoes while tending rather than draining this swamp - hence terms like existential angst and insecurity, all Spielbergian codespeak, "we are bad because you forced us through your antisemitic hatred, suspicion and intolerance", without ever acknowledging the possibility of the other way around.

lobro

borg said...

Cairo: Doctors operating the only brain-scanning machine at an Egyptian hospital near Gaza have been almost overwhelmed by the number of Palestinian children arriving with bullet wounds to the head.

http://jnoubiyeh.blogspot.com/2009/01/palestinian-children-found-with-bullets.html

On just one day last week, staff at the Al Arish hospital in Sinai were called to perform CAT scans on a nine year old, two 10 year olds and a 14 year old, each of whom had a bullet lodged in their brain after coming under fire during the Israeli ground assault on Gaza.

Israeli officials continued to deny on Saturday that their soldiers had deliberately targeted civilians, blaming Hamas fighters for sheltering in the houses of ordinary Gaza residents and using them as human shields.

But there is no disputing the scale of the suffering in Gaza or its heavy impact on the young.

Anonymous said...

ournalists in Gaza struggled to find appropriate metaphors or historical precedents to describe the devastation. From Gaza City, Reuters' Douglas Hamilton wrote: "The destruction is total, as if a terrible earthquake had struck. But this was no natural disaster... [D]rive up into the suburb that once sat proudly on the ridge, and it's as if one had turned a corner of Stalingrad, a dark scene from some World War Two battle of annihilation."

Associated Press: "Destruction in some areas left streets that resembled a moonscape."
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jan2009/gaza-j20.shtml
The terrible casualties inflicted on the Palestinian population underscores the barbarism of the Israeli military assault. At least 1,300 people were killed, including hundreds of children. The toll is likely to rise, as many families are still discovering decomposing bodies beneath the rubble of what were their homes and businesses.

An estimated 5,300 people were wounded, many seriously. Medical personnel in Gaza have reported an unusually high proportion of limb amputations. Dr. Jan Brommundt, a German doctor working for Medecins du Monde in the south Gazan city of Khan Younis, told Al Jazeera that the injuries he had seen were "absolutely gruesome." He said surgeons had reported many cases where casualties had lost both legs rather than one, raising suspicions that the Israeli military was using Dense Inert Metal Explosives (Dime), an experimental explosive device that expels charged tungsten dust that acts as micro-shrapnel, burning and destroying everything within a four-meter radius.

"Victims will present within one to five hours with an acute abdomen which looks like appendicitis, but it turns out on operation that dozens of miniature particles can be found in all of their organs," Dr. Brommundt explained. "It seems to be some sort of explosive or shell that disperses tiny particles at around 1x1 or 2x1 millimeters that penetrate all organs. These miniature injuries, you are not able to attack them surgically.
"

Rowan Berkeley said...

It is certainly not the case that Chomsky ever expressed any sympathy for the views of Faurisson, anywhere at all. All he ever did was defend his freedom of speech,and on explicitly anarchist grounds. The relevant statements by him are online. So this is just the ol' hoopster spinning his wheels as usual.

Ken Hoop said...

Berkeley, rather, spinning my statement. Did I allude to "sympathy?" Only to one determined to prove a case as a hobby/challenge, as the "no planes" case.

By the way, there are anarchists who deny the holocaust, they claim, on anarchist grounds, that is, to further anrachism--so this is Berkeley's tailspin.

Ken Hoop said...

lobro

Amidst all the typically nonpareil cleverness,you pin yourself in the corner of "disprove the holocaust or accept Israel's status as permanent," which, finally, is stark and not necessarily clever.

Rowan Berkeley said...

I have just been struck by the thought that Xymph is wrong in the proposition s/he puts forward in the post, to wit, that the power of israel in the usa is due to blackmail. I would say it is more a matter of psychological warfare, in which organised jewry has excelled since about 1700, starting with control of the press and then progressing towards control of the court.

lobro said...

ken, you seem to hold the view espoused by chomsky, that the historical lies, conspiracies, false flag and black ops are irrelevant to present and therefore future social and political developments and therefore skepticism and pursuit of truth (which admittedly may be off track on occasion) is generally a bad thing, waste of time and effort and therefore detrimental to positive developments.

if i ever end up in court for a criminal deed, you'll be my lawyer, ok?

lobro said...

and i agree with you rowan, blackmail is a simplistic explanation for jew power.

the fact is that they managed to establish and entrench the talmudic meme cluster in wider population that rivals the fear-driven medieval mindset populated with demons and witches.

so when the jewish grand inquisition lights the torch for faurisson, media housewives can be seen contentedly knitting in front of the pyre.

Ken Hoop said...

I have preferred a more nuanced approach, given e.g. to using terms like"quite possibly exagerrated" "hyped"..."of measurable" (hint ,but not necessarily decisive) effect--a cousin, perhaps, of Le Pen's "interesting historical data" etc.

With this practise, "generally" above, would also be an overstatement, (generally).

lobro said...

the more nuanced approach sounds an awful lot like the old christian turning of the other cheek, which to me is a distinctly disagreeable proposition.

i don't dispense amnesty without prior sincere and public contrition.

piet said...

including those at sargasso blog, the altogether around 300 comments about this poster http://www.lucaswashier.nl/?p=7699
confirm what Xy says ..

Not uninteresting discussion (involving arguments building the case Zizek is anti serb/semite (dejan) and philo the latter (Lcc) at http://lecolonelchabert.wordpress.com

Ressentiment In Gaza
December 29, 2008 by lecolonelchabert

The New 2008 Edition of Bouvard and Pecuchet’s Dictionary of Received Ideas includes this entry:

CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY: A composite of two illusions produced by “slave morality”. In extremely rare cases, the locution may be used by holder of appropriate licenses. You can file an application to respectfully disagree with (not to dismiss) Nietzsche down the hall from where you sit the exam to show you can criticise responsibly and maturely Israel’s occasionally disproportionate use of force in its joyful, life-affirming expression of the will to power.

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ps: it has died already.

Malooga said...

As the author of the linked piece, and a Jew (at least by birth and cultural identification, if not by orthodox adherency), I was going to take offense at the categorical way the term "Jews" is thrown around here, as if it automatically infers a unanimity of position. (Certainly I see terms such as "Zionist" and "Israeli" as more useful in discussing events of the past month in Palestine.)

But as nobody even addressed my piece directly -- particularly as to why I chose to include Bernays' work as a basis for analysis -- there is probaby little point in attempting to engage readers here in rational argument.

Ken Hoop said...

"i don't dispense amnesty without prior sincere and public contrition."

Neither did LePen who had he been American would have also avoided,
as you put it, going "off-(the legal) track"

Ken Hoop said...

The problem with Glenn's piece, lobro, is it made no attempt to
cite or analyse the anti-Israel, anti-Zionist theological arguments of the anti-Zionist religious organizations he cites.

Because to do so would have been far too scholarly,detailed and complicated a task for Glenn who in the end has nothing interesting to say on the subject and should probably ignore it, especially as anti-Zionist Arabs and Palestinians
are working with the objects of his displeasure whenever and whereever possible.

Anonymous said...

Malooga, if Bernay were honest he would accredit his work to Gustave Le Bon. Freud owes his ideas to Le Bon and Nietzsche as well. But this was probably never written in the cliff notes.

Evie

Rowan Berkeley said...

I just scanned your article, Malooga, and I think you are drawing a red herring across the track, with Bernays. There is simply no argument provided as to why the Bernays style of brainwashing should result in aggressive, eliminationist zionism, as opposed to anything else. I recognise the merit of your choice of Blankfort and Petras on the US Jewish power structure, but it seems to me that what is good in your article is not new, and what is new in your article is not good. In general, you remind me of the innumerable left liberals who not only diffuse the zionist (or, Jewish) Problem into the capitalist background, but also refuse to draw revolutionary conclusions, ending up in a miserable morass of pessimism.