Friday, January 16, 2009

Unsafe, or just supremacist?

Instructive quote from Philip Weiss:
"The core condition of Zionism is the understanding that Jews are unsafe in western societies."

My RSS reader shows that this was originally a little harsher:
"The essence of Zionism is the belief that Jews are unsafe in western societies."

Weiss goes on to point out that Jeffrey Goldberg fled the United States to Israel because of all the anti-Semitism he was experiencing, a fact which pretty much proves what we've always thought, that Jeffrey Goldberg is insane!

Anyway, Weiss' error about Zionism is instructive about the nature of lite Zionism. Zionism is simply another late 19th century ethnic nationalism, based, as always, on the supremacy of some master race. It has nothing whatsoever to do with safety. The urban intellectuals who formulated Zionism came up with it decades before the holocaust against the Jews, and at a time when anti-Semitism was on the obvious wane - not that it wouldn't continue to flare up, particularly in rural areas - and a new class of Jewish financial and intellectual leaders was starting to come into prominence. Zionism didn't come out of a feeling of weakness, just the opposite: it came out of a feeling of rapidly growing power. It is not a surprise that Zionism is reaching its obvious tragic conclusion in another era of Jewish power.

Why is there such an animus in Jews against the Palestinians? Why are the checkpoint soldiers so cruel? Why does Israel stoop to committing every single war crime imaginable? Why do a few mostly harmless rockets produce such unimaginable rage? It isn't fear. It is the fact that the continued existence of the Palestinians, their failure to capitulate, is an insult to the Master Race, a failure to acknowledge the superiority of the Jews.

The Weiss schtick is that Zionism was a defensive intellectual framework, formerly necessary, but no longer so due to the power of Jews in American society. But Zionism was never really defensive, and has always been in essence offensive, creating a base for the Master Race. The Master Race wasn't threatened by Gentiles, it was offended to have to live amongst such inferiors, and particularly insulted to have to live under the rule of inferiors. The failure of the Zionists - lite or hard core - to really understand the nature of Zionism is built right into the nature of supremacism. It is why Jews won't solve this problem.

55 comments:

Anonymous said...

Superb, Xymph.

Boy I needed that...

Anonymous said...

The above was me - stevieb.

jr said...

Rabbi Meir Kahaneists want every Goy to be 6 feet deep. They see the entire earth as greater Israel

Rowan Berkeley said...

yeah, xymph, i agree: weiss is daffy like that.

hANOVER fIST said...

A very cogent analysis of the situation...after reading the ISIS Papers, I've come to roughly the same solution.

Anonymous said...

PW is a hypocrite and a closeted psycho like most jews. He just cant hide his condition good enough for anybody who cares to look. His thin veneer of 'benevolence' and being 'measured' and 'moderate' is hardly waterproof. Just throw water in his direction and see the ugly grimace of hatred towards us inferiors show.

Screw him and his murderous ilk.

Ken Hoop said...

Some truth here, Zionism was in significant part a Jewish leadership gambit, with some rabbinical complicity, to combat the high intermarriage rate
among German Jews in the 19th century.

Ken Hoop said...

Weiss is not consistent and doesn't claim to be, but serves, overall, a positive politically practical purpose, occasionally says Jews won't solve the problem & occasionally criticises Jews for excluding Gentiles in certain Israel-critical political activities.

anarchore said...

The essence of Zionism is that Jews are unsafe to western societies.

Anonymous said...

Yes, a good point about Zionism. Groups don't gain land when they become weaker, they gain land when they become stronger. Jewish power and Jewish bankers had become wealthy enough to go and take a country

Anonymous said...

729 personified

aren't they beautiful? (disagreeing constitutes hate crime)

Anonymous said...

lousy comment machine

Fritz said...

The Weiss schtick is that Zionism was a defensive intellectual framework, formerly necessary, but no longer so due to the power of Jews in American society.

now, are they a national construct and/or do they dominate America?

Zionism... a 19.century ethnic nationalism

? no, Americans and Canadians don't understand what that would mean, having suppressed the near half of the white people from Germany, with the hate and war-propaganda bought from Lord Rothschild with the Balfour declaration 1917. Zionism rather looks like plagiarized national ideas of others.

Europe's nations are based on folk traditions and history of ages.

and what is the Zionist "nation" doing in America?

Does the Israeli Tail Wag the American Dog?
If the United States is unable to distinguish the world’s or its own real needs from those of another state and that state’s lobby, then it simply cannot say that it always acts in its own best interests.
By Kathleen and Bill Christison
03/01/07 "ICH " -- - A quarter century ago, the executive director of AIPAC —the American Israel Public Affairs Committee—...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17217.htm

John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Stephen Walt of Harvard University, issued an 81-page report in March 2006 analyzing lobby strength. Mearsheimer, the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science, and Walt, Belfer Professor of International Affairs, are leading proponents of the realist school of foreign policy, which argues that states act to further military and economic power rather than pursue idealism and ethics.
...The report aroused instantaneous and vocal opposition from the very individuals whom the authors identify as members of the lobby. Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, a vociferous advocate of Israel, called the authors “liars” engaging in “crass bigotry” and likened their arguments to neo-Nazi propaganda, filled with “thinly veiled charges of Jewish control of American thought” reminiscent of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Abraham Foxman and his Anti-Defamation League (ADL) charged that the report’s main thesis “is the embodiment of classic, anti-Jewish conspiracy theory.”

Anonymous said...

that was to say: near half of white Americans around 1900 probably, was from German origin.

Anonymous said...

In Palestine Zionists are exterminating Palestinian civilisation, since WW2 have they turned the land into Gulags, uprooting olive trees and cultural traces - not easy to understand for modern "progressives", who regard real culture and folk tradition as part of the Disney land show.

Anonymous said...

"Weiss is not consistent and doesn't claim to be" - so what's your point? Like it's OK to be inconsistent as long as you don't claim to be consistent. Sorta like "I'm an ass and I know it but as long as I don't claim to be otherwise, I'm cool?" Please.

The only purpose PW serves is jewish, full stop.

Fritz said...

to add to the statement above (7:46 PM, January 16, 2009):

The Balfour declaration was with the British minister Balfour, and Americans were isolationists (to about 90%) in the World-wars but got cheated, as with the Lusitania and then the Pearl Harbor trickery of FDR, that still is not admitted officially, but doubtless proved with documents (e.g. by Robert B Stinnett). (more at ihr.org)
not new, but has to be mentioned for correctness sake.

The White House Moron Stumbles to the Finish
The Humiliation of America - Jan.14.
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts01142009.html
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS (angry)

Anonymous said...

My guess is that no more than 2% of fund managers who each disappeared with hundreds of millions are Jewish.
Or am I a tad conservative?

MIAMI (Reuters) – A Florida money manager is missing and police have opened an investigation into the possible disappearance of "hundreds of millions" of dollars, authorities said on Friday.

Police are searching for Arthur Nadel, 75, a prominent Sarasota philanthropist and fund manager who was reported missing by his family on Wednesday.

The Nadels were known for their civic activities, serving on boards and donating money.

Habitat For Humanity, Jewish Family & Children's Services and Girls Inc. all received cash gifts and pledges from the couple in recent years.

Yup, a bunch philanthropists, like all Jews, it sure takes the bitter edge off the scam.

In a 2003 report, Sarasota-based The Wall Street Digest lauded Nadel's and Moody's experience, especially Nadel's "black box" computer trading program.

At risk of being labeled a Jew hater, I'd venture a guess that the Jewish investors are pretty relaxed about it because all the sequestered funds end up in Israel, where "true Jews" are refunded and goy loot divided equitably and philanthropically - the main reason for existence of Jewish state, in addition to getting much needed and talmudically sanctioned target practice for genocide against the same goys.

lobro

Anonymous said...

spot the philanthropist
(spellchecker suggests philanthrapist)

Rowan Berkeley said...

Phil Weiss is ultimately about damage limitation, from a 'progressive american jewish liberal' point of view.

Xenophile said...

Interview with Robert Faurisson for the Algerian daily "Echorouk" (The Dawn).
In this excerpt, Faurisson lays out clearly who the winners and the losers of the Holocaust menticide.


Q: Pouvez-vous mettre le lecteur algérien au courant de vos recherches, lesquelles se donnent pour fin de revoir l'histoire de ce qu'on appelle aujourd'hui « l’Holocauste » des juifs ?

A: Au procès de Nuremberg (1945-1946), le tribunal des vainqueurs a notamment accusé l’Allemagne vaincue 1) d’avoir ordonné et planifié l’extermination physique des juifs d’Europe ; 2) d’avoir, dans ce but, mis au point et utilisé des armes de destruction massive appelées, en particulier, « chambres à gaz » ; 3) d’avoir, essentiellement par ces armes mais aussi par d’autres moyens, provoqué la mort de six millions de juifs.

Q: Comment avez-vous révisé ces accusations?

A: A l’appui de cette triple accusation, reprise depuis plus soixante ans par l’ensemble des grands médias occidentaux, on n’a produit aucune preuve qui résiste à l’examen. J’ai donc abouti à la conclusion suivante : Les prétendues chambres à gaz hitlériennes et le prétendu génocide des juifs forment un seul et même mensonge historique, qui a permis une gigantesque escroquerie politico-financière, dont les principaux bénéficiaires sont l’Etat d’Israël et le sionisme international et dont les principales victimes sont le peuple allemand – mais non pas ses dirigeants – et le peuple palestinien tout entier.

source:

http://www.toutsaufsarkozy.com/cc/article04/EkFkEuyVkVjXQNkXSb.shtml


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traducteur said...

Prof. Faurisson is a clear-sighted historian and an honest man. He has already survived endless harassment at the hands of the French authorities and an attempt on his life. I wish him all success.

Rowan Berkeley said...

I am still mystified by the provenance of the amateur video of him being attacked, which was presumably made by the jewish thugs themselves. I have seen it, used in one of michele renouf's compilation efforts.

Man From Atlan said...

While I agree with you about Zionism being an expression of Jewish supremacism, it also is about Jewish survival and the many tools they use to affect that: control of thought, livelihood, and society.
I'd also look at their own psychological self-defense mechanisms, because you can't even begin to criticise them without seeing all the self-justifications they use, and the psycho-sexual conditions exhibited by them (the worst of them, and definitely not by All)as a way of excorcising, and ultimately healing them of their demons.
You might also keep in mind their deep vein of occult thought, which some might call black magic, which can be both intoxicating and also enslaves them all, even the non-believers, imho.
Truly, a people that shall dwell alone. Pity.

Anonymous said...

the pity is that they are not alone enough but afflict the rest of us with their presence.

Ken Hoop said...

9:51 PM, January 16, 2009

I suppose, "anonymous,"or Laurie- if Weiss claimed to be consistent-he only recently claimed to be anti-Zionist, and this after years of harshly criticising Israel, you would find something detestable about that as well.

Weiss particularizes its historical misdeeds against Palestinians to the present in methodology unavailable to most critics, probably including you, and calls on American Jews to seperate themselves from linking their identity to Israel. If this is damage control, short of converting to a healthy brand of Christianity, like Shamir, and calling on other Jews to do so, encourage him to do more damage control.

Ken Hoop said...

Berkeley, I believe the fact Weiss is published, as e.g. his review of Murdoch, in the current American Conservative, does not speak to the unwise editorial policy of a magazine attempting to help dismantle the American Empire.

Anonymous said...

the core of antisemitism is the understanding that enablers like you make non-jews unsafe in western societies.

btw: did Weiss call on "American Jews" to separate themselves from linking their identity to Holo-myth?
Because this is the crux of the matter as all unlobotomized people know.

Of course, Weiss will try and create a firebreak by being uselessly specific, like calling on "American Jews" in Summit, NJ, to observe a minute of sympathy with Palestinian preschoolers suffering third degree white phosphorus burns and the whole world to observe a lifetime of sympathy with Jews suffering existential angst due to endlessly hyped "insecurity" in western societies.

moonkoon said...

As Xymphora points out, it is not survivalism, it is supremacism cloaked by fake, manufactured victim status.
I can think of plenty of other groups of people in this world who have survival concerns that are much more imminent than any worldwide threat to Jews.
Their power, wealth and influence is unrivaled by another group.
Prove me wrong.

The victim meme is reinforced with assigned guilt for past goy misdeeds (which have no doubt been exaggerated for dramatic effect).
As the Germans have embraced this victim scam wholeheartedly, they are the ones who need to take the bull by the horns and indulge in a bit of revisionism.
This will take courage.
I think the Zionists have been very successful in attributing Zionist initiatives to others.

Anonymous said...

the term American Jew reeks of hypocrisy, as if they just happen to be Americans of certain provenance, otherwise indistinguishable from the rest.
They will invariably resort to this hasbara when scurrying to ditches after particularly heinous crimes by their brethren, just like it would never do to call Russian Mafia Jewish Mafia, even though there is hardly an Orthodox Russian among its rank and file.

On the other hand, those who rose to somewhat legal prominence (more often as result of tribal lobbying than talent), whether in academia or entertainment will wear their Jewhood on their sleeves (until caught in wrongdoing, at which point they lie low among the Others).

Hoarsewhisperer said...

Olmert, lacking both the decency and wit to privately inform the elected government of Gaza of the ceasefire decided instead to do a bit of media grandstanding and lying. In his haste, he omitted the sub-text.

"Israel is not your enemy (we only stole your land, your future, your reputation and your dignity).
HAMAS is your enemy (they want us to give them back!)."

Rowan Berkeley said...

Ken, it makes no difference. Your assumptions about the value of published dissent are illusory. They own the mass media. They can allow or disallow whaatever they like.

Anonymous said...

Hoopster, have you missed Philly's continuous reference to "my people" meaning Jews, coupled with his assertion that his people have assimilated into the WASP privilege? I've never read where he believes the current crassness is the result jewish influence. He believes he and his are well healed now that they rub shoulders (and noses) with white people. Anything Philly does or believes he does for 'his people' and if it is at the expense of others, well that's neither here nor there to him, really. Although like all good liberals wring his hands and gnash is teeth...and then go out for brunch.

(no offense meant to anyone I'm just making a point)
Evie

Anonymous said...

pathetic attempt by jews to smear george galloway

for that matter, what's wrong for a catholic to accept that the prophet mohammed ascended into heaven? or that devil worshiping schneerson descended into hell ...
both assertions suit me fine.

lobro

Rowan Berkeley said...

I thought that was you Evie, happy new year, and new year's greetings also to Lobro, who is also still lurking around here somewhere. Long live the new, user friendly comments system (not).

Anonymous said...

i felt incredible unsafe with google passwords when i learned that Deb Frisch (now busy, in Portland, uncovering the fascist elements that creep into (unjust) law enforcement any and everywhere, was hounded from one blog to another over posting a pic such as the one exie here does these days ..on a righty blog of the shallow and hormone disbalanced kind. Her harassers used to say powned a lot. The biggest blog in Holland by the likes of their ilk want to enter mainstream broadcasting with PowNed(erland). The type of idiots who's wallwide split regarding semites is indicative for the rest of their make up: Palis vermin, Izzies can't do wrong. ps: Have yall seen the poster where jaws becomes jews?

piet said...

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/13/baking_as_a_hate_crime
can't get there from behind this christian filter ... so there must be worse than chocolate trade towers
via http://kickhimhoney.wordpress.com/

Anonymous said...

Thanks Rowan, you too.

Bro buddy, how was Kenya? What's happening there politically?

Evie

Anonymous said...

No clue, Laurie, except to say that with (or despite:)) a strong Muslim element, both their society and Tanzanian (where I spent most of the time) are healthy, respectful and honorable, as I suspect are most African ones where demons of hate have not been invoked by Chabadnik witch doctors, like Congo or S. Africa.
Everyone I met was friendly, secure and confident, very unlike the typical Afro-American image.

For example, it is common for everyone to just dump their luggage at the floor of Nairobi airport and go off for a drink, whether tea, espresso or good Tusker lager.

Of course, among the clans and tribes, the inscrutable Maasai are the most fascinating, although their women are very likable, slim, shaved heads and liable to laugh and jump straight in the air without prior notice.

Along the roads linking towns and villages, it is common sight that folks are walking nicely dressed, men in suits and women in colorful fabrics, indicating that poverty and shame are not necessarily linked.

lobro

Anonymous said...

Thanks lobro. It sounds very much like your assessment of Mexico, perhaps the mex-afro Canadian image. Sooo thanks, but not terribly helpful. I guess I'll just have to continue to read between the lines of the press.

"....indicating that poverty and shame are not necessarily linked" - agreed. Sorta takes the guilt away from under priced cigars and other creature comforts.

Evie

Ken Hoop said...

anonmymous

5:37 PM, January 17, 2009

Except reading Weiss carefully the un-paranoid receive the impression more so of him tossing a bone of empathy while serving a full meal of current perspective regards present power,which comes off as being exerted irresponsibly and with brutal consequences for many.

I suppose since Weiss is childless we will never answer the question
regards the religious training or lack thereof of the children he would have born with his Gentile wife--but the odds for organized Zionism would not have been good judging from several generations of stats.

Anonymous said...

not quite sure what to make of the above, laurie, but to make things easier for you, consider that i picked up some cuban cigars at the london heathrow dutyfree for about the same or less than at partagas factory in havana, demonstrating yet again that goods are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them.

when one buys a cigar for double its factory price, it's just the case of a broker making a killing - nothing new there, partagas is excluded from that profit, so that any guilt i may feel is when my money goes to an undeserving party.

as to the other "creature comforts", care to itemize?

lobro

Ken Hoop said...

Rowan Berkeley said...
Ken, it makes no difference. Your assumptions about the value of published dissent are illusory. They own the mass media. They can allow or disallow whatever they like.

1:00 AM, January 18, 2009



I suppose this is why you support no political movements in the West, because all "publish dissent" to recruit-and I would suppose most all worthy of the name "movement" do so in as great numbers as those of the modest AC.

Ken Hoop said...

Laurie

A dissident Catholic who promotes
nuns in the priesthood, pro-abortion, non-trinitarianism, high criticism of the Bible, etc., if sincere, also does his/her work for "his/her" people. And the enemies of the Church rally to the dissenter's work, the better to weaken it.

Anonymous said...

as to the other "creature comforts", care to itemize? - No

Hoopster are you talking about me or lobro? Because you know I'm not Catholic, never was and now I consider myself pagan, a non believer, kafir, infidel, heathen, goyim (in fact out right hostile) to the three desert religions.

Evie
P.S. you know you guys just can't decide what my moniker is. I made that mistake once with Berk and I'm not making it again.

Ken Hoop said...

If you want to continue wasting energy pouting about Weiss' imperfections, be my guest. Similarly, wasting energy pushing "paganism" in an America without a discernible political pagan movement. I prefer to be political, comment politically.

Anonymous said...

So hoopie you think you can separate the political from the religious? If you do, you're not as astute as I had hoped. No wonder Philly snows you. Not everyone needs a 'movement' to form their ideas only you lemmings do. Paganism is the future. Read the French New Right (de Benoist)and leave your old paradigms behind. Evie

Anonymous said...

happy M.L.K. day ken.
Evie

Ken Hoop said...

So now you're citing a European movement while claiming one needs no movement, yet still ultimately
focussing your concern on saving the American system. One needs a movement to come to power, which is something you're not particularly concerned with. You haven't "found out" Weiss, you're not even operating on the level of practical power politics,necessary to "find out" anybody.

Anonymous said...

you are laurie to me, whatever else you may be to others.

as for the creature comforts, if we are on the same wavelength, let me tell you that they are by no means underpriced compared with highly competitive western industries, be it hotels, restaurant or other forms of hospitality.

i was was hell bent on saving money, i'd stay in toronto or even better, head down qew highway to buffalo.

lobro

Anonymous said...

It's not a movement, it's thought:
Nouvelle Droite (English: New Right) is a school of political thought founded largely on the works of Alain de Benoist and GRECE (Research and Study Group on European Culture). - there's no point in having a movement until you get the thought right

Okay, looobroooo

Evie

Ken Hoop said...

There are political parties in Europe which garner varyingly significant portions of the vote
while promoting de Benoist; there are none in America, where your "revolutionary" outlook, last I checked, left you guardedly advancing Obama's candidacy while opposing black --and white national/seperatism
and worrying about the break-up of the system and nation. Ho-hum.

Anonymous said...

Ken it's much more important that a person thinks the same as you than look the same as you. And if a black, hisp, chink et all, thinks the same as you, your issues of mixing will take care of themselves.

Evie

Ken Hoop said...

You're the one who reacts with unnecessarily excessive indignance when black seperatists criticise whites.

Anonymous said...

Only because I believe in what I say.

Evie.