Tuesday, February 10, 2009

Parts of the propaganda war

Before I consider the exciting new War Against The Jews - it might be a little premature to write about it - a little clean-up of links:
  1. Making movies to promote Zionism at the expense of making money has put Hollywood's greatest businessman almost out of business. But hey, if it can allow the shooting of one Palestinian child it's worth it, right?
  2. From Greg Bacon in the comments, arrests have been made in the Venezuelan 'anti-Semitic' synagogue attack, and the arrested include "at least one security official from the synagogue". Like clockwork: Chavez complains about the slaughter in Gaza so the Jews attack themselves to try to garner sympathy. It has happened so, so many times it is almost a joke.
  3. The Jew-controlled American publishing industry is also pulling its weight. This is not just an attack on the fake memoirs; it is also surprisingly 'anti-Semitic', especially as it is published in the New Yorker (remember when the New Yorker used to be relevant?).
  4. Speaking of finding things in odd places, an excellent photo essay on Gaza published in in the New York Times, kinda like opening Der Stürmer in 1943 and finding a similar article on the suffering of the Jews. Published where it is, I assume it is just Jewish sadistic porn.
  5. Also from the comments, a good analysis of the BBC's refusal to allow an appeal for Gaza relief. The BBC couldn't allow Gaza relief to be mentioned as that might cause people to ask why the people of Gaza need relief, which is, by definition, an 'anti-Semitic' question. My question: why does Mark Thompson still have a job?
  6. In the same vein, it is apparently now illegal in Britain to express an opposition to genocide. Just another example of how the JIZ will eventually wreck everything until they are stopped.

65 comments:

Rowan Berkeley said...

Knesset: 120 seats

The final Haaretz poll before the election suggested a strong right-wing bloc of at least the following 60 seats:
Likud with 27 seats,
Yisrael Beiteinu on 18 seats,
Shas with 9 seats
National Union Habayit Hayehudi (the Jewish home) on 6 seats. According to the poll, a center-left bloc would only be able to muster 54 seats:
Kadima with 25 seats,
Labor on 14 seats,
New Movemment-Meretz on 7 seats, Hadash on 3 seats,
United Arab List-Ta'al on 3 seats Balad with 2 seats.

traducteur said...

All the Zionist parties being more or less genocidal, these projected returns are largely devoid of interest.

Greg Bacon said...

JA, these thoughts are VERBOTEN. If you persist in these heresies, you VILL be tracked down and burned at a stake. JA! Nein, VE VILL crucify you like the dog you are, you heathen!

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) – World Jewish leaders told Vatican officials that denying the Holocaust was "not an opinion but a crime" when they met on Monday to discuss a bishop they accuse of being anti-Semitic.

My Catholic grade school teachings are a bit rusty, but I believe that one can commit a sin by commission--actually doing the act--or by omission--only thinking about the act.

Does that mean that practicing Catholics have committed a sin if they had thoughts about the Holocaust™?

And is that a venial or mortal sin?

Since Israel and her lackey's are always using the issue of the Holocaust™ to shut up anyone pointing out that they are murdering Palestinians en masse, does questioning Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestine also count as a sin? Or does asking questions about Israel's murderous campaign against Palestinians only count as a crime?

One can question or even deny the existence of a God, but it's not a crime. But one can't ask questions about the Holocaust™?

Will the Holy See issue guidelines on what questions are a crime and or a sin?

What's next? Crucifying people for having asked questions about the Zionist version of the Holocaust™?

Greg Bacon said...

All the Zionist parties being more or less genocidal, these projected returns are largely devoid of interest.

I agree. Does it really matter if Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahlmer is voted in to head the Tel Aviv Terror Masters?

The closest Israel got to a peace maker was Rabin and you see what they did to him.

atheo said...

Interesting juxtaposition in news stories:

Differing narratives on killings ~ AP opts not to report the use of dogs on civilians

http://atheonews.blogspot.com/2009/02/differing-narratives-on-killings-ap.html

Rowan Berkeley said...

exit polls will begin appearing as soon as polling closes, at 10 p.m. Israel time.

I can promise you all that they will be utterly devoid of interest.

Xenophile said...

Sorry, fellows, but you guys realize the US is having a cardiac arrest after Timmy Geithner's folderol speech, don't you?

DOW down 4.6%, 2:33 pm

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DJI&t=1d&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=


The Babylon-credit system is broken beyond repair, and soon a large number of Americans will be homeless, destitute and living on food-stamps.

I hope the good people here has already taken the necessary precautionary measures concerning water and food supplies.

If the Mad Max scenarion actually happens, the American ire that will be unleashed on the criminals will be something to behold.

Greg Bacon said...

When food shelves in grocery stores are no longer filled or you can't afford to buy the basic necessities thanks to Zimbabwe like inflation, let's see how many of us dumbass Americans still know more about "American Idol" than what's happening in DC.

At the fire house I was stationed at, try and talk about the economy or some bill being passed in DC and all you'd get would be blank stares.
But bring up last night's "Big Game," and the table would erupt with conversation.

Not picking on firefighters, since this disease of stupidity is across the spectrum

The ignorant, spineless and the apathetic are getting just the kind of government they deserve.

Unfortunately, so are the rest of us.

Rowan Berkeley said...

According to a Rafi Smith exit poll commissioned by Ynet,
Kadima won 28 Knesset seats,
Likud won 26 mandates,
Yisrael Beiteinu won 16 seats,
Labor won 14 mandates.

According to Channel 1,
Kadima won 30 Knesset seats,
Likud won 28 mandates,
Yisrael Beiteinu won 14 seats, Labor won 13 mandates.

According to Channel 2,
Kadima won 29 Knesset seats,
Likud won 27 mandates,
Yisrael Beiteinu won 15 seats,
Labor won 13 mandates.

Anonymous said...

As Orwell already mentioned Greg.

Rowan Berkeley said...

If each of the main blocs (Kadima/Labor, Likud/Beiteinu) only has 42 seats, that gives maximal play to the small parties (primarily Shas) to make idiotic demands in return for agreeing to join anybody's coalition - as usual.

traducteur said...

My children keep urging me to move to the city, but I suspect it's more likely that they'll end up joining me here, where we do have food, water, fuel and shelter. Once the electricity is gone, of course, I'll have no way of letting you all know how we're getting on.

Anonymous said...

but reality is this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/4571961/Israel-election-Arabs-to-overtake-Jewish-population.html

already an apartheid state in my opinion, but I remember, long ago xymph made the point on this reality...

Anonymous said...


An article from the propaganda war?

SO, WHY DO PEOPLE BELIEVE IN THE HOLOCAUST?

Most people have been shown the film footage taken by American/British propaganda teams who accompanied troops as they liberated the Bergen, Belsen, Buchenwald, and Dachau concentration camps.

The footage, especially from the Belsen camp, features large numbers of emaciated prisoners and corpses.

At this point, nearly everyone is deliberately (mis)led to the (false) conclusion that Jews were exterminated by gas chambers.

That this conclusion is false, is clear, if you are aware of the universally agreed fact, that there were no extermination camps in Germany. Even the extremist, Simon Wiesenthal, admitted this (in a letter to the respected British periodical Books and Bookmen, April 1975, p5, where he says "there were no extermination camps on German soil..."). No historian, Jew or otherwise, any longer claims that there were extermination camps in Germany (the Jew historians still claim that there were extermination camps, but now they claim that they were all located in Poland).

In particular, this means that there was no genocide, and no gas-chambers, at the camps Bergen, Belsen, Buchenwald or Dachau (as these camps were in Germany).

So, the above mentioned film footage from these German camps cannot be evidence for genocide, because, according to ALL the historians, there were no extermination camps in Germany

Clearly then, this US film footage (contrary to what you are told) DOES NOT, and NEVER DID, prove genocide of Jews.

So, the emaciated prisoners and corpses shown in the US film footage, had to have some other cause, or causes.

In fact, the other causes have long been known, but hidden by the Jews. Generally, the Germans managed to adequately feed the prisoners of the concentration camps, even with the transport system under sustained attack. Many photos are available which show thousands of reasonably well-fed prisoners. For example, this photo from Dachau (taken on liberation):

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/dachau-inmates.jpg

Or, this photo from Buchenwald (taken on liberation).

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/buchenwaldsurvivors.jpg

Or, this photo from Birkenau (Auschwitz) taken on liberation.

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/birkenau09.jpg

What actually happened, was that procedures aimed at holding various diseases in check, broke down under the pressures of war. The main killer, was disease, in particular, typhus.

Typhus is spread by lice. Zyklon-B was an insecticide used to kill the lice that spread Typhus. The Typhus epidemics that raged through the camps (in both the first and second world wars) killed many thousands. If you suffer from Typhus, your body wastes away and you look as if you are starving to death. Typhus, is the reason for most of the severely emaciated prisoners and corpses.

Typhus, explains the mixture of severely emaciated prisoners and healthy prisoners. Those who caught the disease, became severely emaciated, and often died, those who didn't, remained reasonably healthy prisoners.

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/hoax-fig-11.jpg

Derrick Sington, a political prisoner at Belsen, stated:

"Towards the end of February 1945 my own situation changed completely.

By that time typhus had become a serious danger for the whole camp. It was the species of typhus which is transmitted by lice. At one time all the transports which arrived at Belsen had had to pass through a "human laundry" and this disinfection seems to have been effective enough to keep the camp free from lice until the autumn of 1944.

At the end of October a big transport had, for the first time, been admitted to the camp without being disinfected, because there had been some damage to the machinery of the shower-baths. Unfortunately the people of this transport were louse carriers, and from that day the lice gradually spread over the whole camp. [...] Typhus broke out in Camp I about the end of January. At first there were only a few cases, but a month later a dozen had appeared, and it became impossible to check the disease [...]."


From "Belsen Uncovered," Duckworth, London, 1946, by Derrick Sington, pages 117-118.

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/hoax-fig-9.jpg

Of course, this unchecked Typhus epidemic, meant that the death rate at Belsen, was very high, and that there were plenty of emaciated prisoners and corpses to film, in order to feed the lie, that Jews had been systematically exterminated.

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/dachau-prisoners.jpg

A few more reasonably well-fed Dachau inmates (photo taken on liberation).

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/dachau-corpses.jpg

And, some emaciated corpses at Dachau (photo taken on liberation).

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/uploads/2009/01/buchenwalddead.jpg

Some emaciated corpses at Buchenwald (photo taken on liberation). This should be compared to the reasonably well-fed Buchenwald prisoners, pictured above.

Here are a few of articles that may help explain what happened:

A Quick Proof that the Holocaust Story is a Lie.
http://linux.50webs.org/holocaust/jew-math.htm
http://guardian.ifastnet.com/holocaust/jew-math.htm

The Jews Declare War on Germany (in 1933).
http://linux.50webs.org/holocaust/jews-declare-war.htm
http://guardian.ifastnet.com/holocaust/jews-declare-war.htm

Death Certificates issued at Auschwitz.
http://linux.50webs.org/holocaust/auschwitz-data.htm
http://guardian.ifastnet.com/holocaust/auschwitz-data.htm

Greg Bacon said...

Looks like Netanyahu won. Does that mean he'll celebrate the win like Judeofascists celebrate their holy days by butchering some Palestinians or bombing some Beirut apartment buildings?

SmythFritz said...

Reuters, Steven C. Johnson, Feb.10:
The US on Tuesday rolled out a revamped bank rescue plan that may ultimately cost more than $2 trillion and moved a step closer to enacting an aggressive package to stimulate the world's biggest economy and help reverse the global slowdown....
Geithner and Bernanke in the cash room of the US Trashusury
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090210/tpl-uk-financial-20b2d2f.html

The U.S. Treasury intends to set up a public-private fund that could absorb up to $1 trillion in toxic assets from banks' books, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said....

the European Commission said European banks should be pressured to declare the bad assets on their books in return for government aid.


hold a minute - aid for bad banks?

Another idea would be to make denial of economic progress a crime as in case of h-locust and make the Vatican pay reparations for that bishop Williamson's disbelief and the Swiss?

European shares ended 2.9 percent lower after the U.S. rescue plan came out and banking giant UBS posted the biggest one-year loss in Swiss history, saying it would cut 2,000 investment banking jobs.

far away from my days.

lobro said...

Does that mean that practicing Catholics have committed a sin if they had thoughts about the Holocaust™?

Jesus: "The truth will set you free"

Actually, no ... just the opposite, it will land you in jail, and you will be excommunicated from Mother Church, Jesus, you goddamn Denier, you.

Rowan Berkeley said...

While both Kadima and Likud cautioned that it was necessary to await the final results, both did their best to spin the results in their favor. Kadima insisted that its apparent emergence as the largest party showed that the public wanted Livni as prime minister. Likud countered that the victory for the rightist bloc overall was a clear repudiation of the current Kadima-led government's policies and a vote for a Netanyahu-led government. Both parties rejected the idea of sharing power via a rotation government. At Labor Party headquarters, in contrast, the atmosphere was one of unrelieved gloom: The party had been fighting desperately to hang onto third place, and it apparently lost the battle. Before the vote, party chairman Ehud Barak had been angling for the post of defense minister under either Netanyahu or Livni. But Labor officials said Tuesday night that the party's poor showing made it virtually impossible for it to join a Netanyahu government. (Haaretz)

Rowan Berkeley said...

I think that in Israel's case, the more right-wing the government, the easier it will be to isolate the country, because despite everything it is objectively so tiny,

Rowan Berkeley said...

Also, it will be interesting to see whether there is an increase in Jewish emigration from Israel to western Europe, the USA, or elsewhere. The hebrew term for this is 'yerida' ('going down').

Rowan Berkeley said...

I am imagining a big influx of 'Tel Aviv Trustafarians' to Amsterdam, like during the first reign of king Bibi in 1996-1999, if anyone keeps track of this sort of thing.

John Foam said...

especially as it is published in the New Yorker (remember when the New Yorker used to be relevant?).

I've collected every issue of the New York Times for the past few months and could most certainly open a New World Order museum and exhibit with some of the pages..fully framed, of course. So now there is no debating it: U.S. journalism is dead and the Neocons and Zionists killed it..

Rowan Berkeley said...

Right Bloc:
27 - Likud
15 - Beiteinu
11 - Shas
05 - UTJ
03 - Jewish Home
04 - National Union
65 - Total

Left Bloc:
28 - Kadima
13 - Labor
03 - Meretz
04 - Hadash
04 - Ta'al
03 - Balad
55 - Total

Anonymous said...

The question is, what will Shas do?

Rowan Berkeley said...

Lemme see if I can dial this number ... Click! Whirr ... Click!
"I'm sorry, the government you have elected is inoperative ..." Click! Inoperative!"


- Gil Scott-Heron, "h2o gate blues" (1973)

Anonymous said...


"Starved to death in the Jew run concentration camp called Gaza."

That should make a great Hollywood movie.

Greg Bacon said...

The hebrew term for this is 'yerida' ('going down').

Ohh, so that's what my congesswoman and Two Senators have been doing to Israel, "yerida."

And here all along I just thought they were giving AIPAC blowjobs.

Anonymous said...

Recall the scene from "Schindler's List" where the evil Nazi commandant shots the Jew prisoner in the concentration camp.

Now imagine the exceedingly EVIL Jews doing the same thing to the Gaza concentration camp prisoners,... EXCEPT WITH ONE TON BOMBS.

Imagine that,... the EVIL Jews are dropping ONE TON BOMBS on their caged prisoners.

Makes the Nazis seem positively humane.

Anonymous said...

Stupid kikes. They can't even manage to elect a government (izzy) let alone run one (U.S. gov. into the ground). Between Bibi & livi there will be a battle about who is the more right-wing i.e. murderous. Parasites, every last one of them.

Laurie

Anonymous said...

Number 'Two of Six' of Ezra Pound's Money Pamphlets is up here

lobro said...

proof that 69% of europeans are retarded:
Poll: 31% of Europeans blame Jews for global financial crisis

jew-logic 101:
"(...) and the fact that so many of the defrauded investors are Jewish has created a perfect storm for the anti-Semites," Foxman said

Rowan Berkeley said...

yeah, that is foxman at his weirdest.

i am sick beyond belief of the phrase 'perfect storm'. it's hollywoodese.

5ds said...

"...and the fact that so many of the defrauded investors are Jewish has created a perfect storm for the anti-Semites," Foxman said

and what percent would 'so many' be?

lobro said...

"perfekt sturm und drang" is what foxman was itching to say and tried to communicate subliminally

5ds said...

from angry arab:

War criminals and fascists compete:
NBN TV today talked about the Israeli elections by saying that "Israeli war criminals and fascists are competing."

5ds said...

from angry arab:

War criminals and fascists compete:
NBN TV today talked about the Israeli elections by saying that "Israeli war criminals and fascists are competing."

Greg Bacon said...

proof that 69% of europeans are retarded:
Poll: 31% of Europeans blame Jews for global financial crisis


Here's one of the more rational and educated replies to that story:

Before you accuse Europeans of anti-semitism, ask whether it is true that there are many Jews in the finaincial industry and whether they were responsible for anthing. It is a factual question that can be answered factually. Then make the argument one way or another, instead of jumping to conculusions about anti-semitism.
If we are taking measures against ALL Arabs because 19 of them comitted a criminal act on September 11, we can talk about ALL JEWS.
You cannot have it both ways.


Amen. Whatta say to that, Abe?

5 dancing shlomos said...

from alana smith at counterpunch:

Fahad Hashmi is a 29-year-old Pakistani man who received his bachelor's degree in political science from Brooklyn College in 2003 and his master's degree in international relations from London Metropolitan University in 2006.

In 2004, he allowed an acquaintance, Junaid Babar, to stay at his London apartment for two weeks. While there, Babar kept raincoats and waterproof socks in his luggage, which the U.S. alleges he later gave to a high-ranking member of al-Qaeda.

Simply because of this--raincoats and socks--Hashmi was arrested by British police at London's Heathrow Airport on June 6, 2006, and charged with providing material support to al-Qaeda. He was not accused of providing money or resources to al-Qaeda, or personally giving anything at all to any member of al-Qaeda, or o being a terrorist himself. Yet he was held in the general prison population of Belmarsh Prison in England for 11 months, and then extradited to the United States, where he has been held in solitary confinement for over a year.

Greg Bacon said...

Extradited by "Mikey" Chertoff, then head of the DHS and imprisoned by "Mikey" Mukasey of the DOJ.

Maybe he'll wind up like another victim of Judeo facism, Sami Al-Arian

lobro said...

greg, an argument could be made that all gents who are not "anti-semitic" (in broad, foxmanian sense) are retarded.

the rest either landed on their heads or have sold ass to jews (and are thus secretly anti-semitic, e.g., joe biden or condi rice).

recognizing this reality should be the starting point of gentile liberation front (glf).

lobro said...

and what percent would 'so many' be?

i think it's irrelevant, shlomos, b/c hardly any jews were defrauded, it's a shell game ending in israel, where they can reclaim their investement + interest (stolen goy money).

why do you think that of all the countries, only israeli banks have 100% bulletproof secrecy protection and cannot be challenged by the us (read: jew-run) authorities.

the kosher butcher is standing there with his axe in plain sight of uncomprehending cows.

Anonymous said...


THE FRAUD ELIE WIESEL (A WELL-KNOWN HOLOCAUST LIAR).

Elie Wiesel states in his book "Night" that when the Germans evacuated Auschwitz, he was given the option of staying at the Auschwitz hospital, with his father registered as a patient, to await the arrival of the Soviets, or to join the evacuation with the "mass-murdering" Nazis to Germany.

Guess what? Elie Wiesel chose to go to Germany with the "mass-murdering" Nazis.

Amazing,... eh? Elie Wiesel chose to accompany the "mass-murdering" Nazis on a long march in the middle of a freezing winter, taking his father with him, rather than wait (with about 7,650 other sick or disabled Jews) for the Soviets to arrive.

Wiesel's father died because of his choice. The actual quote is:

"The choice was in our hands. For once we could decide our fate for ourselves. We could both stay in the hospital, where I could, thanks to my doctor, get him (his father) entered as a patient or nurse. Or else we could follow the others. 'Well, what shall we do, father?' He was silent. 'Let's be evacuated with the others,' I told him."

Isn't it hilarious,... that the Jew Elie Wiesel (whose books repeatedly describe horrendous Nazi "mass-killings" of Jews at Auschwitz) should choose to go with the very same Nazis that had been "mass-killing" his fellow Jews, rather than wait for the Soviets.

Greg Bacon said...

Collapse of entire (almost) world economy in 24 hours, thanks to 550 BILLION being stolen. Bet there was one SLC whose economy wouldn't have collapsed, eh?

$550 Billion Dollar Bank Run - Collapse Of The Entire World Economy In 24 hours

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xKPcyvlfnc&feature=related

But the bloodsuckers aren't giving up, they've still got a few trillion left in the US Treasury to cart off to Khazaria, aided and abetted by their oh so friendly lackey's in Congress and the White House.

Anonymous said...


It is fair to ask why the Nazis didn't bother to kill off these last 7,650 witnesses to "genocide" (those left behind when Auschwitz was evacuated).

7,650 witnesses to "genocide" just let go by the "mass-murdering" Nazis.

It is also fair to ask why the Nazis didn't bother to kill off the other 60,000 witnesses to "genocide" that they transfered to other camps in Germany.

Another 60,000 witnesses to "genocide" just let go by the "mass-murdering" Nazis.

It is also fair to ask why the Nazis needed the hospitals at Auschwitz and Monowitz, since they could just kill the Jews who got sick and were unable to work. Of course, killing all Jews who were sick and unable to work, is part of the Jew Auschwitz myth.

Imagine that, the "mass-murdering" Nazis tried to heal sick Jews. Surely they should have just killed them.

Rowan Berkeley said...

someone is dumping some very mouldy looking 'holocaust denial' leftovers on here for some reason.

grettir said...

Rowan,

Instruct me. I find the holocaust swindle comments apt. To be sure the comments repeat common knowlege for anyone who has done a little reading, but they have new point when we recall the actions of the murderous children of the "holocaust", and their equally murderous grandchildren today. I am content to see to what sort of point "anonymous" is leading.

Laurie,

Your blog gains daily. First rate work.

Lobro,

You are flat out wrong until you distinguish between the predator Jew and the innocent who was raised from birth, just as you or I, with preconceptions which are, on closer inspection a pack of lies.
It seems to me to be the worst sin in all the world to punish a man for what was done at another time by someone else.
In more practical terms, anyone with more than five millions should hang.

Rowan Berkeley said...

Grettir, none of them are remotely new.

grettir said...

OK Rowan,

I'm throwing in the towel. Do try to recall in your Hegelian miasma, that not everyone is blessed with your intellectual clarity and certainty. (Hmmm, miasma, clarity; thesis, antithesis, ... .)

Geh shoin!

Anonymous said...

A must read for all
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KB13Ak01.html

Anonymous said...

You know xymphora, it becomes more difficult to read your blog during work hours (no access internet home)with the larg boycott poster.

Greg Bacon said...

someone is dumping some very mouldy looking 'holocaust denial' leftovers on here for some reason.

I agree. At first, I just ignored the comments, but the seem to be getting more virulent.

Which would give someone somewhere the excuse needed to censor this blog.

And maybe that's the whole point of the "Jew this, Jew that" posts.

Anon, if you feel so strongly about the HD issues, then why not identify yourself with a REAL name and not some lame ass pseudonym?

Anonymous said...

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/giraldi.php?articleid=14220

moonkoon said...

Grettir,

... synthesis

traducteur said...

Presumably it's being presented as evidence, Rowan. It's subject to evaluation and refutation, but shouldn't be dismissed out of hand as propaganda.

5ds said...

above, saw couple of almost forgotten names: chertoff and mukasy. anyone know where these rats have landed. surely somewhere high up on the taxpayer welfare payroll

lobro said...

well, i for one applaud anonymous repeating what to some are rehashed stories - lest we forget, eh?

and i for one do tend to forget, only remember that there were 6 million virulent lies spun out of it, 60,000 from katowice alone, entire families and extended families of lies, begging to be heard and seen by the weeping, popcorn crunching world.

Anonymous said...

Why aren't they naming the people who performed the electronic withdrawal of the 550Billion$? That can be done can it not?Jocelyn Braddell www.thehandstand.org

Anonymous said...

The facts, anonymous has collected again about the extermination of people during WW-2, are not disputed by historians today. I suppose. Gitta Sereny wrote e.g. in the NYT years ago, that Auschwitz was not an extermination camp (but claimed them further east).
But the impression people have today usually is dominated by 1-2oo movies and countless publications that lately have appeared.
So it is a clarification to sometimes remember some factual history, as more, as the "victim-survivor" narrative is used today, to justify "Israel's right to defend itself" ( against almost unarmed Palestinians behind fences and Walls for generations now).
Myself not author of anonymous contributions, mostly agree with him.
So, while no one be-littels the the suffering of so many during second Worldwar, it is correct to set the weights according to facts.. opposed to the false impressions the movie-industry is spilling out.

Anonymous said...

sorry the last anonymous, 8:31 AM, was Fritz

lobro said...

grettir, i postponed response until i figured out what irks you, i think i got it now.
the core concept is the one of in the broad foxmanian sense.
instead of chopping into uselessly minute parts what is quite simple logic, i will ask you whether indeed, you'd qualify as "antisemite" in that broad foxmanian sense, i.e., would foxman claim that grettir is an antisemite.
if the answer is yes (and how could it fail not to be), then welcome to my camp, although you always were there.

in a broad lobrovian sense, people disliked and despised by foxman (some > 99.7% of the planet) should all declare themselves as such, parallel to the movement of self-reporting to authorities as holocaust doubters.

after all, if foxman says i am an antisemite, it would be antisemitic of me to resist his authority.

a good choice of reply to mossad's "by deception you shall wage the war" might be "the truth shall be your sword, the logic your shield".

lobro said...

rats, fail to be, not NOT to be.

Ken Hoop said...

Lobrovianism fails,however, if Foxman criticises anti-Zionist Jews, any of them, as or in the spirit of "self-hating." I don't follow him closely enough to make the determination which I'm guessing is the affirmative.

lobro said...

you must be yockeying, ken.

lobro said...

and i can attest that i am not an anti-self-hating-semite

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, you MORON, the camps had hospitals because during the entire war, they denied the existence of the camps. ALSO, if you will remember, Nazi experimenters such as Joseph Megele did inhuman experiments on Jewish inmates in the camps - something NO human being should have been subject to.
The "hospitals" existed to experiment on people, not to heal them, idiot.

And as for you folks referencing "hollywood movies" for your accusations that the facts are incorrect, perhaps you should be reading HISTORY BOOKS instead? You will find ample FACTUAL evidence of the camps and the horrible things that happened there - no movies need to be seen to know this.

Lastly, you ask why did the Nazis leave people alive at the end of the war? Because they turned tail and ran - many to Argentina and other havens for Jew haters.

Perhaps YOU should consider moving there.

You people have to rely on lame suppositions to justify your completely ridiculous and false statements. OF COURSE you cannot research the facts: they would show you to be wrong.